After reading Chapter 1, let's discuss Scenario #1 Page 10 and 11. Identify the resources available to the child, John, and those to his mother, Adele.
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John and Adele have very limited resources available to them. First of all, out of the eight resources mentioned in this chapter John and Adele has only three available to them: mental, physical, and knowledge of middle class hidden rules. Because of divorce, Adele's financial resources has been restricted. This is called situational povety. Sadly, Adele has found herself slipping from the middle class status to poverty. As a result, she is emotionally weak which has lead to alcoholism. Because of the emotional weakness, her slide into poverty is almost guaranteed. Adele must learn the rules of generational poverty. One of the rules in generational poverty for women is that one may need to use one's body for survival. After all, at this point, that's all she has. Possibly, Adele will go out with the mechanic, and the rest will be history, generational history. Adele's son John seems to want to follow all the rules of middle class, however he seems to have no role model at this time. Because of his williness to read and learn, maybe he will be one who will find his way out of poverty. Augustine Cann
Both at work and in the school setting, we often cross paths with people from various socioeconomic backgrounds. Therefore, I expect the information in this book will give me a clearer understanding of the effects of poverty on students, their families, and myself.
Now as far as the Scenario (John and Adele), Adele seems to have definite resources. She seems physically able to sustain (She works, drives, and cares for her children). The mental capability appears to be there (Hopefully, the alcohol didn't fry her brain). Also, I'd like to believe that she is in tune with knowledge of the middle-class hidden rules. Having some college and being able to be the sole financial support of the family says much. I'd like to believe that the school is a partial support system. Where would Adele be if the school system did not care for her daughter while she works? Nevertheless, it is my belief that one thing for certain which is a plus for Adele is the fact that she has choices. Whether good or bad, right or wrong, these choices give her some control and if applied appropriately, these choices can make more resources available to her. Also, she should apply the power of positive thinking. Realistically, at these prices today, buying gasoline for the car can be overwhelming. However, I believe that faith can move mountains. Adele should take John to the library for his reading contest and attend his school's Open House bringing both the children with her, because a baby-sitter may not be an option. Evory Johnson
Adele is certainly struggling with her slide from middle class to poverty. It is evident that she has no financial resources and her emotional resources began eroding years ago when the marriage began to disintegrate. When things were tough in her marriage, she began the one or two drinks an evening just to help her “calm down” but this has increased over time with the divorce, lack of funds, medical needs for a disabled child, etc. She has her high school diploma and some college, so I believe the mental resources are there. There was no mention of any religious faith so there are probably no spiritual resources at this time. She has the physically resources, as long as she remains sober, but there is no local support system since there is no family in town and no community or church group participation. Adele should have a good understanding of middle class rules as she lived at that level for some time, but the rules of poverty are foreign to her. The scenario doesn’t mention whether or not Adele if familiar with services available through state agencies. I’m guessing she is not since she has not had to utilize them before. If she could contact these agencies for assistance she could also possibly make some community contacts to build a support system. I feel she has had role models in the past as she did complete high school and initially pursued furthering her education. She even saw the importance of helping her husband go to medical school and made the sacrifice for her family to succeed. However, she has no one to show her the way at this time at this new level of poverty.
John still exists in the middle class mindset, which is understandable since he’s only eight years old. He is eager to participate and be successful in school. Hopefully Adele can find a way to get to the library and help him maintain his motivation, possibly walk or take a city bus if available. She should make every effort to attend Open House even if she has to take the children. It is a school function after all and is for the student’s benefit. These things will demonstrate to John that his education is important and she can remain a role model in this area. K. Holland
John and Adele: The sad thing about this chapter is that we can relate it to so many of our own children here at school. They were very limited in the resources that they had. Adele had the mental ability to work and comprehend what was going on. She also had knowledge and the physical ability to do her job. Basically that was the main three that she had. Sadly the rest of the resources were not available to her and her family.
Ok, this sounds like a sscene from a soap opera. I am not a soap opera viewer, but I can imagine that sometimes those episodes hit close to home for many people we might know. Now as for Adele and John, they are truly poverty-stricken, but not by choice. I think Adele has made some bad choices in life - some in the name of love and some for the sake of getting the basic necessitites. Adele and John have knowledge of the hidden rules of the middle class and possibly the affluent class, but lack the support system to deem those rules effective. It becomes a downward spiral for Adele, but John, although young, could slide up the scale (as far as economic class and status is concerned). With Adele's alcoholism being a problem, she more than likely, uses much of the income to purchase alcohol to "numb" her pain, if you will. I would be inclined to say that Adele does not have strong spiritual support resources based on her poor choices. John, being a child, sees this and can be affected in two ways: (a) he can begin to feel resentment toward his mother and vow to not be like her when he is older,hence ending what could be the beginning of generation povery, or (b) get caught up in making poor choices as his mother has made and hence begin the vicious cycle of generational poverty. Forgive me if I am wrong, but I can't see any of our students facing this scenario, but some of the other scenarios, in my opion, hit the nail on the head.
This scenario is very surprising to me. If you took out the money problems many of the things that are happening (not enough time to deal with the kids homework, difficulty of a handicapped child, husband leaving you, alcoholism, and not enough child support)are all complaints that can be heard from middle class families. I think Adele feels beaten down from everything "going wrong" in her life. She has so few resources because there are no people around her. I just want to talk to her and tell her to go to AA. That would give her at least a support system and some role models that have gotten away from alcohol. I agree that this could very easily turn into generational poverty if John doesn't persevere through the problems with his mother. Heather Gasper
I found this scenario very interesting. This case is definitely that of situational poverty because of the divorce. The only resources I found available in this scenario were mental, physical, and because of previously living the life of the middle class, Adele surely has knowledge of middle class rules.
Emotional resources, which are not evident in this case, could be the main reason Adele is at this low stage. She continues to return to alcohol as her "get away" to deal with problems, which in turn creates more problems. Because of the deficit in funds, there are clearly no financial resources for this family. Adele is living paycheck to paycheck and does not have the money to live otherwise. There was also no evidence of spiritual guidance. This scenario did not mention the view of a "higher" being in which the family relates to. In my opinion, having spiritual resources can lead to support systems which Adele also does not have. The scenario states that Adele is responsible for everything for her family, including giving her daughter physical therapy. Having no support system to depend on causes stress for the mother, which in turn goes back to the lack of emotional resources and the use of alcohol.
Although role models were not discussed in the scenario, I do not believe Adele had a role model to receive guidance or hope from. John on the other hand, may have role models at school, but may not see his mother as a positive role model which can have a negative effect on his life's outcome.
As a family, Adele and John have limited resources. They have virtually no support system and other possible resources are lacking. Adele does not seem to have the tools or the resources she needs in any capacity to overcome these obstacles. She could try to go out with the machanic but I believe that will only lead to more problems. John is making every attempt to succeed but it seems that his mother's situation will not afford him the opportunity to succeed.
In my opinion any time a family splits apart, and there is a shift in the home "atmosphere" and everyone feels it immediately. I don't know how I'd make it without my husband. I have grown use to being able to rely on him when I am having trouble. Not only does Adele have trouble coping, but John has touble coping as well. The man of the house tends to take on certain roles. They provide physical and mental resources to the family. This allows Adele to tend to her duties and relieve stress by communicating and comforting each other. I have been interuppted so I'll get back. Sorry
I am continuing my last post that was interrupted, kids! Anyway, I feel as though the betrayal of her husband after she had sacrificed so much for their dreams to come true, set in motion the down fall. Adele had already began drinking so the dependence was already established. Now Adele has the responsibility of an ill child with medical demands while her "doctor" husband lives the highlife. As she begins to drink more the few resources she has now will begin to diminishes as well. Adele's first thought may be that she has to find someone to replace what is missing, hense the date with the mechanic serves more than one purpose. A boyfriend may mean extra financial, physical, and mental support if she meets a nice man. And since most nice men are aleady in relationships that could also add negative issues instead of solving issues. The family does not have a support system nor do they seem to have any spirtiual resources. Hopefully Adele's knowledge of many middle class hidden rules will still pass on to John who will have the desire to achieve and go on to pull out of their situational poverty issues.
Adele and John have very few resources available. It is a very sad situation. Adele who is not used to living in poverty now finds herself there. She adds to her already difficult situation with substance abuse. Her lack of knowledge in poverty is hurting herself and her child. She seems not to be able to find a way to pull herself out.
I think Adele's issues are more in terms of reality than resources. I may appear unsympathetic but, there are two areas of concern for me. First, why is she only receiving less than $300/month in child support from a doctor. Second, why is she allowing her exhusband to threaten her. (Obviously, is she were truly unfit he would've made those claims already.) Adele has many options/resources available that she has not tapped in to for whatever reason.
I can personally relate to this situation: after a divorce, with an infant, and even with child support, the costs of just living were too much. My child support did not even cover a month's bills for day care, and I had to keep working to pay my mortgage, car note, and other supplies. It breaks my heart to think that Adele will have to "date" the mechanic to get her car fixed, but it's a horrible feeling to standing in a place where you are truly all alone. I tended to think more of the mechanic- it discusses him with Adele, but what if he wanted to help her "take care" of her son? Being without resources puts people in situations that are absolutely terrifying. Forget facing the reality of it, Adele can only face each obstacle one at a time. If I had not had family supports, only the good Lord knows where my son and I would have ended up.
John and Adele have limited resources.There is no support system what soever. Divorce is a huge impact on the lives of the children and Adele. Adeld feels hopeless and it is impacting the childrens lives greatly. John could come out on top but needs support from both his mom and dad. I agree with Mrs. Johnson, "Faith can move mountains". DeWanna Granger
Both John and Adele are going through situational poverty. Adele's husband, who is John's father, has left the family, and they are trying very hard to make ends meet. Things seem to look pretty bleak for them. The only resources that are available to them are physical resources and support systems. They are really lacking financial resources, which they need very badly. I feel that if Adele decides to go out with the mechanic, it will make a bad situation worse. First, she is not going out with him because she likes or cares for him. She wants him to fix her care. Second, he is showing her some much needed affection and attention that she has not had since she and John's dad divorced. Third, she could possibly get pregnant by the mechanic, which could open up another can of worms for her and John. Glenn Antonio Kline
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John and Adele have very limited resources available to them. First of all, out of the eight resources mentioned in this chapter John and Adele has only three available to them: mental, physical, and knowledge of middle class hidden rules. Because of divorce, Adele's financial resources has been restricted. This is called situational povety. Sadly, Adele has found herself slipping from the middle class status to poverty. As a result, she is emotionally weak which has lead to alcoholism. Because of the emotional weakness, her slide into poverty is almost guaranteed. Adele must learn the rules of generational poverty. One of the rules in generational poverty for women is that one may need to use one's body for survival. After all, at this point, that's all she has. Possibly, Adele will go out with the mechanic, and the rest will be history, generational history.
Adele's son John seems to want to follow all the rules of middle class, however he seems to have no role model at this time. Because of his williness to read and learn, maybe he will be one who will find his way out of poverty.
Augustine Cann
Both at work and in the school setting, we often cross paths with people from various socioeconomic backgrounds. Therefore, I expect the information in this book will give me a clearer understanding of the effects of poverty on students, their families, and myself.
Now as far as the Scenario (John and Adele), Adele seems to have definite resources. She seems physically able to sustain (She works, drives, and cares for her children). The mental capability appears to be there (Hopefully, the alcohol didn't fry her brain). Also, I'd like to believe that she is in tune with knowledge of the middle-class hidden rules. Having some college and being able to be the sole financial support of the family says much. I'd like to believe that the school is a partial support system. Where would Adele be if the school system did not care for her daughter while she works? Nevertheless, it is my belief that one thing for certain which is a plus for Adele is the fact that she has choices. Whether good or bad, right or wrong, these choices give her some control and if applied appropriately, these choices can make more resources available to her. Also, she should apply the power of positive thinking. Realistically, at these prices today, buying gasoline for the car can be overwhelming. However, I believe that faith can move mountains. Adele should take John to the library for his reading contest and attend his school's Open House bringing both the children with her, because a baby-sitter may not be an option.
Evory Johnson
Adele is certainly struggling with her slide from middle class to poverty. It is evident that she has no financial resources and her emotional resources began eroding years ago when the marriage began to disintegrate. When things were tough in her marriage, she began the one or two drinks an evening just to help her “calm down” but this has increased over time with the divorce, lack of funds, medical needs for a disabled child, etc. She has her high school diploma and some college, so I believe the mental resources are there. There was no mention of any religious faith so there are probably no spiritual resources at this time. She has the physically resources, as long as she remains sober, but there is no local support system since there is no family in town and no community or church group participation. Adele should have a good understanding of middle class rules as she lived at that level for some time, but the rules of poverty are foreign to her. The scenario doesn’t mention whether or not Adele if familiar with services available through state agencies. I’m guessing she is not since she has not had to utilize them before. If she could contact these agencies for assistance she could also possibly make some community contacts to build a support system. I feel she has had role models in the past as she did complete high school and initially pursued furthering her education. She even saw the importance of helping her husband go to medical school and made the sacrifice for her family to succeed. However, she has no one to show her the way at this time at this new level of poverty.
John still exists in the middle class mindset, which is understandable since he’s only eight years old. He is eager to participate and be successful in school. Hopefully Adele can find a way to get to the library and help him maintain his motivation, possibly walk or take a city bus if available. She should make every effort to attend Open House even if she has to take the children. It is a school function after all and is for the student’s benefit. These things will demonstrate to John that his education is important and she can remain a role model in this area.
K. Holland
John and Adele: The sad thing about this chapter is that we can relate it to so many of our own children here at school. They were very limited in the resources that they had. Adele had the mental ability to work and comprehend what was going on. She also had knowledge and the physical ability to do her job. Basically that was the main three that she had. Sadly the rest of the resources were not available to her and her family.
Ok, this sounds like a sscene from a soap opera. I am not a soap opera viewer, but I can imagine that sometimes those episodes hit close to home for many people we might know. Now as for Adele and John, they are truly poverty-stricken, but not by choice. I think Adele has made some bad choices in life - some in the name of love and some for the sake of getting the basic necessitites. Adele and John have knowledge of the hidden rules of the middle class and possibly the affluent class, but lack the support system to deem those rules effective. It becomes a downward spiral for Adele, but John, although young, could slide up the scale (as far as economic class and status is concerned). With Adele's alcoholism being a problem, she more than likely, uses much of the income to purchase alcohol to "numb" her pain, if you will. I would be inclined to say that Adele does not have strong spiritual support resources based on her poor choices. John, being a child, sees this and can be affected in two ways: (a) he can begin to feel resentment toward his mother and vow to not be like her when he is older,hence ending what could be the beginning of generation povery, or (b) get caught up in making poor choices as his mother has made and hence begin the vicious cycle of generational poverty. Forgive me if I am wrong, but I can't see any of our students facing this scenario, but some of the other scenarios, in my opion, hit the nail on the head.
This scenario is very surprising to me. If you took out the money problems many of the things that are happening (not enough time to deal with the kids homework, difficulty of a handicapped child, husband leaving you, alcoholism, and not enough child support)are all complaints that can be heard from middle class families.
I think Adele feels beaten down from everything "going wrong" in her life. She has so few resources because there are no people around her. I just want to talk to her and tell her to go to AA. That would give her at least a support system and some role models that have gotten away from alcohol.
I agree that this could very easily turn into generational poverty if John doesn't persevere through the problems with his mother.
Heather Gasper
I found this scenario very interesting. This case is definitely that of situational poverty because of the divorce. The only resources I found available in this scenario were mental, physical, and because of previously living the life of the middle class, Adele surely has knowledge of middle class rules.
Emotional resources, which are not evident in this case, could be the main reason Adele is at this low stage. She continues to return to alcohol as her "get away" to deal with problems, which in turn creates more problems. Because of the deficit in funds, there are clearly no financial resources for this family. Adele is living paycheck to paycheck and does not have the money to live otherwise. There was also no evidence of spiritual guidance. This scenario did not mention the view of a "higher" being in which the family relates to. In my opinion, having spiritual resources can lead to support systems which Adele also does not have. The scenario states that Adele is responsible for everything for her family, including giving her daughter physical therapy. Having no support system to depend on causes stress for the mother, which in turn goes back to the lack of emotional resources and the use of alcohol.
Although role models were not discussed in the scenario, I do not believe Adele had a role model to receive guidance or hope from. John on the other hand, may have role models at school, but may not see his mother as a positive role model which can have a negative effect on his life's outcome.
As a family, Adele and John have limited resources. They have virtually no support system and other possible resources are lacking. Adele does not seem to have the tools or the resources she needs in any capacity to overcome these obstacles. She could try to go out with the machanic but I believe that will only lead to more problems. John is making every attempt to succeed but it seems that his mother's situation will not afford him the opportunity to succeed.
In my opinion any time a family splits apart, and there is a shift in the home "atmosphere" and everyone feels it immediately. I don't know how I'd make it without my husband. I have grown use to being able to rely on him when I am having trouble. Not only does Adele have trouble coping, but John has touble coping as well. The man of the house tends to take on certain roles. They provide physical and mental resources to the family. This allows Adele to tend to her duties and relieve stress by communicating and comforting each other. I have been interuppted so I'll get back. Sorry
I am continuing my last post that was interrupted, kids! Anyway, I feel as though the betrayal of her husband after she had sacrificed so much for their dreams to come true, set in motion the down fall. Adele had already began drinking so the dependence was already established. Now Adele has the responsibility of an ill child with medical demands while her "doctor" husband lives the highlife. As she begins to drink more the few resources she has now will begin to diminishes as well. Adele's first thought may be that she has to find someone to replace what is missing, hense the date with the mechanic serves more than one purpose. A boyfriend may mean extra financial, physical, and mental support if she meets a nice man. And since most nice men are aleady in relationships that could also add negative issues instead of solving issues. The family does not have a support system nor do they seem to have any spirtiual resources. Hopefully Adele's knowledge of many middle class hidden rules will still pass on to John who will have the desire to achieve and go on to pull out of their situational poverty issues.
Adele and John have very few resources available. It is a very sad situation. Adele who is not used to living in poverty now finds herself there. She adds to her already difficult situation with substance abuse. Her lack of knowledge in poverty is hurting herself and her child. She seems not to be able to find a way to pull herself out.
I think Adele's issues are more in terms of reality than resources. I may appear unsympathetic but, there are two areas of concern for me. First, why is she only receiving less than $300/month in child support from a doctor. Second, why is she allowing her exhusband to threaten her. (Obviously, is she were truly unfit he would've made those claims already.) Adele has many options/resources available that she has not tapped in to for whatever reason.
I can personally relate to this situation: after a divorce, with an infant, and even with child support, the costs of just living were too much. My child support did not even cover a month's bills for day care, and I had to keep working to pay my mortgage, car note, and other supplies. It breaks my heart to think that Adele will have to "date" the mechanic to get her car fixed, but it's a horrible feeling to standing in a place where you are truly all alone. I tended to think more of the mechanic- it discusses him with Adele, but what if he wanted to help her "take care" of her son? Being without resources puts people in situations that are absolutely terrifying. Forget facing the reality of it, Adele can only face each obstacle one at a time. If I had not had family supports, only the good Lord knows where my son and I would have ended up.
John and Adele have limited resources.There is no support system what soever. Divorce is a huge impact on the lives of the children and Adele. Adeld feels hopeless and it is impacting the childrens lives greatly. John could come out on top but needs support from both his mom and dad. I agree with Mrs. Johnson, "Faith can move mountains".
DeWanna Granger
Both John and Adele are going through situational poverty. Adele's husband, who is John's father, has left the family, and they are trying very hard to make ends meet. Things seem to look pretty bleak for them. The only resources that are available to them are physical resources and support systems. They are really lacking financial resources, which they need very badly. I feel that if Adele decides to go out with the mechanic, it will make a bad situation worse. First, she is not going out with him because she likes or cares for him. She wants him to fix her care. Second, he is showing her some much needed affection and attention that she has not had since she and John's dad divorced. Third, she could possibly get pregnant by the
mechanic, which could open up another can of worms for her and John.
Glenn Antonio Kline
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